Step #2 Whenever it's convenient, do a light scuff of the Zero Rust and apply U-POL's high build sandable polyester primer, sand for flat and straight and apply your color coat (or have someone with a gun shoot it). Reply. [–]ImaSleepingBiscuit[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child). That's the trouble with paint, it seems to look and perform perfectly at immediate glance. But it’s easy to give an old metal gate or any other metal decorations you have around the house a face-lift. The glittering effect intensifies with multiple layer application. But like I said. Reply. Elizabeth Scott. You can paint acrylic on nearly any surface if you allow the primer plenty of time to cure. You should use Rustoleum Primer. Spray paint probably isn't as bad, but make sure it isn't over thick paint. This is why they recommend waiting a year or so before putting a protective lacor over paintings. Rust-Oleum® Craft & Hobby Acrylic Glitter Burst Paint adds sparkle and shimmer to craft and decorative surfaces. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. This subreddit is for traditional painting only. Definately a case of a barrier coat first. It'd been drying for over a week and it was a thin layer, so I'm gonna go for it. Slackdaddy, Jul 31, 2019. yes you can. With the ones I did acrylic over oils. on Jul 10, 2019. Can I paint acrylic over rustoleum? On the areas that are back to bare galvanised metal, prime first with Rust-Oleum 3302 CombiPrimer Adhesion, after 45mins apply 1 coat of Rust-Oleum CombiColor in your chosen colour and finish to the full door surface (including over existing well adhered paint). I also used a drying medium in the oils to make them dry faster. Karl Blair Dickinson. I put down about 2 coats and so far no peeling or chipping. Your paint job will only be as good as what is under it. Not the most difficult of paintings, but I am pretty happy with how it turned out. on Jun 29, 2019. “Paint” and “spray paint” are too ambiguous. Wanted a "space" look that is easy to achieve with spray paint. I wouldn't do it. And the base evaporates very fast. When you spray lacquer over a solvent-based acrylic finish, they combine to form a hybrid film, even if the acrylic is pigmented to form a paint. Can I put acrylic paint over KILZ oil based primer? I have already painted with acrylic, and then sprayed my painting with this Mirror Effect spray paint. They can be used on metals that are rusty, provided you prepare the surface so the primer or paint properly adheres to it. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=296770, Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.4. It is generally suggested that acrylics do not fair well on top of oils. So I did that. That stuff is too stinky/hazardous to sit next and paint on until it dries. What do you think? I've read that all the paint will have to be stripped off or urethane paint will lift. My choice is a strong suggestion towards removing ALL the rust before painting it. The long answer is any topcoat is only as good as the base coat it covers. I have some wood scraps that I want to tole paint on for exterior use. A gift I made for my doctor. Is it possible to use acrylic over Rust-oleum Mirror Effect spray paint? The short answer is yes, you can paint over the rustoleum primer. Allow to dry for 16 hours @ 20°C, and then apply a second and final coat of Rust-Oleum CombiColor to finish to system. I've had a painting where I used acrylics. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Can I use a 2 part epoxy over the Rust-Oleum 2X Ultra Cover Clear Gloss without ruining the pour? Hi, All I have is a couple partial and a full can of interior oil based Kilz. (Yeah, I know...). You need to have a good base coat. www.rustoleum.com. Please post digital works in /r/DigitalPainting. I did an acrylic paint pour and sealed it with Rust-Oleum 2X. It can be applied directly to plastic and no primer is needed. Rust-Oleum Concrete Saver 5600 System Acrylic Urethane Floor Paint is a convenient, high-gloss, water-based coating ideal for use in mild industrial or commercial settings. For other types of painting, try /r/paint or /r/finishing. Is it possible to use acrylic over Rust-oleum Mirror Effect spray paint. Rust-Oleum® Specialty Textured Paint For Plastic Spray revitalizes plastic in one step. Concrete & Garage Floor Paint can be used on garage floors, patios and basement floors. I waited a long time to make sure the oil was properly dry. Do I need to take it to a paint shop for this small area? This will let me install the interior for now. While this is an art subreddit, our posts still appear to users not subscribed to /r/painting. If your submission isn't showing up in the 'new' section a few minutes after posting, message the moderators so we can fish it out of the spam filter. I know it's probably not what you want to hear but if you're not comfortable with doing it yourself, knowing you may not be happy with the results, I'd take it to a pro. Even discoloration. ... That would be the reverse, you could paint acrylic enamel over lacquer, not lacquer over enamel Dick Stevens, Jul 31, 2019. you can but the rustolium primer wont stop rust its not a water seal i know i tryed it on a car that was parked outside i was doing the body work and driving it and would primer it it always had rust coming threw so right before we painted it we spent a day wet sanding it then put epoxy 2 part primer then a primer sealer then the enamel that was 5 years ago and no rust so far so if you do it that way you will need to respray the areas that start rusting every week would be better to prime it and keep it under a tarp but still resand and reprime when you do paint it. Helpful. I have a 1951 Ford F1 that the previous owner painted with rustoleum paint. By following our simple steps, you can give any rusted or fading metal objects a new lease of life. The primer and paint … Acrylic latex paint can be used over oil-based paint, but it requires additional preparation according to Pittsburgh Paints. 5600 protects the concrete floors from dusting, water damage, staining and mildew and can be applied over previously coated surfaces. See how it does. Because then you are putting a "plastic" paint on a material that can't properly dry out, bad things happen. Remember when you apply a primer and then want to paint over it, you’re essentially trapping that primer product in with the top coats of paint. Spray paint surface preparation preparation is extremely important and is the best predictor of how long your new paint finish will last. Do what you want, but i don't think it will hold up. I was wondering if I could prolong the rustoleum paint job life longer than an 80's dodge factory blue paint job, with the addition of a clear coat. You can easily do a variety of exciting projects when it comes to using acrylic paint on metal. Then oil again. I have no idea what sort of thickness you have going on. For posts relating to home or wall painting, please use /r/HomeImprovement or /r/DIY. My painting professor made it seem like I was screwed, and that acrylic can never EVER go on top of oil-based paints, including spray paints. Rustoleum manufacturers paint and primer and offers a product line specifically for covering and protecting metal surfaces. This water-based formula contains low VOCs, low HAPs1 and low solvent odor and is ideal for schools, cafeterias and settings where paint fumes are an issue. A week would be optimal probably. It's generally considered okay to put oils over acrylics, just not the other way. For posting an established artist's work, please use /r/art or /r/paintings. If you’re using an oil-based paint only use an oil-based primer, not an acrylic one. 2K epoxy paints can be used to paint materials made of many plastics. The best paint to use is a water-based acrylic one. So why Rustoleum? That would be best. The rust inhibitive formulation also makes it an ideal choice for direct application to steel. Well, on the internet you can find people who rolled it on, and the cars look pretty good. You can paint over varnished wood as long as you use the right materials and painting process. Acrylic will go over it but peels off like a dry skin. We'll see what happens after winter to see if the cold will affect it. Follow us on YouTube Or visit us on YouTube now. Submitted images must be original content. It'll cost a bit more but it's more likely to be done right. Specifically the paint seems to not be sticking to the primer at all, preferring to rub right back off … A baked finish results from baking acrylic paint onto a surface at temperatures exceeding 150 degrees Fahrenheit. (Even on a piece of cardboard) Use the same basic layers. If you do that. But it's the performance over a period of time that separates makeshift applications from designed applications. You could put million dollar paint on as a top coat but if the base coat fails it'll just be million dollar flakes of paint. It's thin. © 2021 reddit inc. All rights reserved. The Latex is exterior flat house paint. After the rustoleum has cured i dont see a problem .the experts will have more info on this . Just finished :-). Peeling and the like. Jump over to the SHARE POST #8. Make sure every layer is dry before applying the next one. I waited a long time to make sure the oil was properly dry. Spray paint does not need months like oil paints. I used black semi-gloss rustoleum thinned with mineral spirits and put it on with a brush. It is a commonly held belief that oil-based paints don’t mix well with other types of paints; however, at the same time, it is also said that it is perfectly okay to use latex paint over an oil-based primer. After priming with a Rust-oleum 2x UltraCover Spray Paint + Primer (Aluminium), I've found that my Tamiya acrylic color paints (X-1 Black and X-2 White) are not applying well at all. Well. And then try it out. TIA :-) (Thanks in advance) I can tell you I have used spray paint on a canvas and then used acrylics on top. Can you put oil-based paint over water-based paint? Look to see what's been cancelled or postponed. Just need to paint my dash, but want a good job. The reason is oil paint only dries by oxidation, if you ever leave it out on a pallet the inside never dries just forms a crust. EVENTS You must give the undercoat plenty of time to cure for the best result. As for when I put acrylics over spray paint: firstly This was a homemade canvas so I primed with gesso (basically white acrylic). I'd say if you can make something on the side. Things that can cause the new paint to fail include using latex paint that is not 100 percent acrylic and not preparing the wall properly. Impulsive painting with watercolors on yupo paper ! Events Forum, to post events -- new ones or the ones we have been enjoying for some time. My first go at spray painting. You can put oil-based paint over any type of paint including water-based paint. Last time I was in the hospital he mentioned liking legos so I turned him into one! It was. Thanks, that helps a lot. Decided to test it out on my longboard. View our range available at Bunnings today. Anyone know if I can use Acrylic paints over a base done in Latex? Then go to town with your acrylics. I let it dry for 2-3 days in a well ventilated area. I painted over the lining in my tub this spring and so far its held up. Ideal for wood, paper mache, terra cotta and most porous surfaces as well as ceramic bisque and glass. Is it possible to go back on top of the spray with acrylic, or will the water-based paint not adhere to the oil-based paint? Achieve a smooth, professional finish—with low VOCs—using Rust-Oleum Sierra Performance™ Beyond™ Acrylic Enamel. Mine were both relatively thinner layers. Then acrylics. Here are a few examples of projects you can do with acrylic painting on metal: Desks. Helpful. This subreddit is intended for images and discussions related to artwork. Compare Rustoleum Aerosol Paint - Specialty Farm and Implement Enamel, Ferguson Red 539624 Select another one or two products to compare. The PO had shot the exterior with a really bad paint job (which will need to be removed later) with lots of overspray onto the dash and interior doors. I switched it up and did some ocean, and I’m so excited how the colors turned out!! You need to know what KIND of paint is in the spray can. but it wont bond too great.... especially if the rustoleum is really thick. COVID-19 Update to Customers To help the paint to bond to it, sand it fairly well wit sand pads/paper or with liquid sander, or both..., or just use oil paint. Put down some darker color. Is there a … Get Rust-Oleum updates on your Facebook wall. If you feel daring, I'd say. (Ig: evanartt), Art vs artist both are a work in progress. As for when I put acrylics over spray paint: firstly This was a homemade canvas so I primed with gesso (basically white acrylic). Can You Use Acrylic Paint on Stained Wood? Yes. Acrylics on canvas. As a courtesy to your fellow reddit users, please mark nudity and other sensitive material as NSFW by clicking the link under the post title. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: /r/painting is a place for painters of reddit to share their work with fellow artists. Baking paint onto clay or ceramic decreases the curing time of the object. (self.painting), submitted 4 years ago by ImaSleepingBiscuit. Posts aimed specifically at solicitation will be removed. Instagram Get Rust-Oleum updates on your Facebook wall. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 20857 on r2-app-06530133ba459ef3c at 2021-01-06 10:17:43.877152+00:00 running 15b6a67 country code: AR. Sierra Performance - Beyond Acrylic Enamel. Is there some sort of medium I can coat my canvas with to make sure my next layers adhere correctly? Let it dry a few days. You could put million dollar paint on as a top coat but if the base coat fails it'll just be million dollar flakes of paint. Rendered by PID 20857 on r2-app-06530133ba459ef3c at 2021-01-06 10:17:43.877152+00:00 running 15b6a67 country code: AR. I'm definitely a newbie when it comes to painting. I also used a drying medium in the oils to make them dry faster. Can be applied over a base colour. [–]Daannii 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children). It isn't unusual to clear-coat an acrylic paint finish on a metal surface, such as on an automobile, with CAB-acrylic or acrylic lacquer. The long answer is any topcoat is only as good as the base coat it covers. So no concerns if it was properly dry. If you'd like a piece identified, please use /r/whatisthispainting. Also, if it fails you have someone to take it back to for a fix. Check in for status! With the ones I did acrylic over oils. Apply latex primer over the enamel paint to bond the surface on couple thin layers. Here is my thoughts. What are my options for primer then? From Hanalei Bay, a place I hope to go back to someday. Can I paint it on exterior bare T111 siding. Down the road, once I have decided on a color, I will remove the interior and windows and have the truck interior painted the same as the exterior. Then let that dry. A primer is only needed if you want the paint manufacturer's warranty. Yes, you can spray paint over rust. You can compare up to three products. “Sweet, this means it can be done! Any help, tips or ideas for this newbie? After the coating is completely dry you can paint over with acrylic paint. Okay, this may be a little self serving because I'm the Zero Rust guy, but I'll make a suggestion that I know will fit what you need to do and marry that solution to the equipment you have. I have both interior and exterior Acrylic paints. Slasher - 8”x10” painting by me! It resists fading, chipping and staining from sunlight, harsh weather,hot tires and chemicals. It doesn't surprise me that the architectural acrylic resin based paint performs similarly to the leather edging acrylic paint. Then oil. Like cracks. I hate the paint job, from twenty feet away it looks okay but up close it's a train wreck. Anything less is a compromise and your paint will eventually fail. Please specify how frequently you paint with user flair. Interestingly, though, on the other hand, you can’t use oil-based paints over latex paint.. But most of all, you can get a quart for under $5 at any hardware store, whereas automotive paint can be 20-50 times that much. and join one of thousands of communities. My grandma, my dad and my aunt by the river. Over the years, metal gates can rust and the paint becomes flaky. Cabinets. This self-priming acrylic paint will refresh your concrete floors in just one coat. The short answer is yes, you can paint over the rustoleum primer. In fact, there are many ways to paint stained wood and the method you choose should depend on the type of stain used, the state of the wood, and whether or not you’re painting … [–]PaintPaintPaintAddict 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children). Before you paint, take the time to prepare your surface properly. For now, I would like to sand down the interior (overspray on dash and paint brush applied bed liner material around windows) and complete some of the repairs, then shoot it with rustoleum primer(sandable) and a top coat of rustoleum dark grey paint. If there's a surface that needs to be protected or a look that needs to be transformed Rust-Oleum has a coating. Please classify new posts with the appropriate link flair. Great for floors, walkways, decks, etc. Wasn't happy. If it was lacquer you can put enamel or lacquer over it but the first paint must be completely cured… like 2 months. I have an air compressor, but no paint gun or air/water/oil seperator and virtually no experience mixing and shooting primer. Ideal Use You can bake acrylic paint in the oven safely and it will give your project the most amazing finish. I am assuming this is a problem when the oil is not properly cured. Yes, acrylic painting on metal is possible, but it does require some preparation first. I have a neighbor who has a paint shop in his garage, so I … Then let that dry. Encourage one another! Having said that, I've never heard anything bad about rustoleum primer failing when applied to a properly prepared surface but you need to be aware of the possibility. Thanks for the advice! It can take up to three years for and oil painting to be fully dry. Follow us on Instagram Or visit us on Instagram now Connect with us on LinkedIn. Rust-Oleum's Universal Acrylic Primer is specifically formulated for application to a variety of surfaces that include metal, wood, concrete, plaster, wallboard, hardboard, glass, and tile. Do you need to Prime PVC before painting? Not ready for exterior paint yet (still working on the mechanical side of things) but the interior is gutted. I would generally avoid it. I think that is primarily a concern because artist oil paints take a really really long time to properly dry. Put down some darker color. Yes, you can paint over stained wood. 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